Secret Santa – Ep. 383
Mike, Tommy, and Seth dig into the new Organizational Apps (Org Apps) experience in Microsoft Fabric and how it changes the way teams package and distribute content. They break down what’s different from classic workspace apps, where the feature helps, and the preview limitations you need to understand before rolling it out broadly.
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Main Discussion: Org Apps in Microsoft Fabric
This episode is a holiday-flavored chat that quickly pivots into a deep dive on Organizational Apps (Org Apps): what they are, why Microsoft introduced them, and how they differ from the classic workspace app experience in Power BI.
A key takeaway is that Org Apps feel like the “Fabric-native” evolution of the app concept — a container meant to package and distribute content, but in a way that aligns with Fabric’s broader set of artifacts.
Workspace Apps vs. Org Apps
The group frames the comparison around a few practical differences:
- Multiplicity: workspace apps have historically been a one-workspace-to-one-app model (with audiences helping segment content), while Org Apps support creating multiple apps from the same workspace.
- Artifact scope: Org Apps expand the concept of “what can be distributed” beyond just the traditional Power BI objects, with a big focus on notebooks (including view-only experiences) and real-time dashboards.
- User experience customization: Org Apps bring more flexibility around navigation, branding, and layout choices — removing some of the friction points people hit with the older app UI customization options.
Why Notebooks Inside an App Is a Big Deal
One of the most interesting parts of the conversation is the implication of sharing a notebook as part of an app experience.
Notebooks can be more than code: they can tell a story with markdown, images, queries, and visuals — and if they’re view-only, they give consumers a guided experience without turning everyone into an editor. That opens up a new “data product” style distribution pattern where you’re not only shipping a report, you’re shipping context and analysis alongside it.
Security, Propagation, and the Preview Gotchas
The team also gets into the part that can make or break adoption: permissions.
Org Apps can change how access to related items (especially across workspaces) is granted, which is helpful when reports depend on semantic models living somewhere else. But they also call out an important preview limitation: in some cases, Org Apps can propagate access to items without automatically revoking it when users are removed or when items are removed from the Org App.
If you’re piloting Org Apps, treat access management and cleanup as part of the rollout plan — especially in organizations where access reviews and permission reporting are already challenging.
Looking Forward
Org Apps are a clear signal that Microsoft is continuing to invest in Fabric-first experiences for content packaging and distribution. If your organization is moving deeper into Fabric and you’re already using apps as the primary way users discover and consume content, Org Apps are worth piloting — just be deliberate about governance, audience strategy, and the current preview limitations.
Episode Transcript
0:23 [Music] out out [Music] good morning and welcome back to the explicit measures podcast with Tommy Seth and Seth and Mike as you can tell it is the day before happy Tuesday gentlemen oh there we go got oh man you were trying you almost talked right over that I almost forgot it was a Tuesday I was actually thinking more about Christmas coming up and all those last little bit of presents you need to go on and grab for stocking stuffers and things like that
0:54 stocking stuffers and things like that so welcome everyone to the the episode yes we are crazy it is the day before Christmas and yes we are putting on a podcast I don’t think you’re going to find many other content creators around this one that still says we are going to be doing an episode here around our secret Santa this year so every year around Christmas time we get each other gifts probably related to things around data and RBI and now this year we get to we get to add fabric things I guess could be part of our our
1:26 things I guess could be part of our our gift giving this year but before we get into our actual Secret Sia and giving out gifts to everyone let’s just jump in and say welcome everyone and we’re just going to do a couple fun topics here at the beginning no news nothing’s really coming out for the Microsoft team at this point but yeah Tommy what movies I was wondering here what movies do you and or Seth watch at Christmas time and what is like those traditional ones that you go through we’ve been asking our friends this and there’s a surprising shocking amount of
1:57 there’s a surprising shocking amount of movies I have not seen I thought I’ve seen all at Christmas time but I have not so it’s just curious what movies do you go through through the Christmas season it’s funny you say that because there’s been a few that I’ve actually taken out of the catalog where I’m like it’s actually not as good as I remember we watch off The Rednosed Reindeer I know everyone thinks it’s the it’s the classic pretty boring little like the animated one with the little yeah and it’s the noral that comes up from the water and stuff like that yeah there’s a lot of so yeah there’s a lot of songs
2:27 lot of so yeah there’s a lot of songs and you’re go oh my gosh but I the kids I guess like it but honestly the the big ones for us are the Grinch it’s the Jim Carrey The Grinch Jim the real one the real one the real one we had a heated debate at our family and they were saying the animated one by far was the best one and not the Jim Carrey in person one that’s when you take away their drinks because clearly something wrong okay so and it’s good the the Benard and Cumberbatch animated one it is a good one but the Jim
3:00 one it is a good one but the Jim Carrey The Grinch the performance that Jim Carrey puts on he’s good whole episode it’s like Cast Away running with that type of performance I think my wife couldn’t get over the fact that the Grinch had like hair down his hand on his knuckles all the way to the fingertips that just really creeped her out all the time whenever he was touching anything it is probably the to me the most quotable and I know a lot of people would say elf but to me it is the most quotable Christmas movie I can think of all right give us a quote quick I can’t I can possibly allow it
3:31 I can’t I can possibly allow it Jazz as size s gluts stare into the abyss but what would I wear kind yes kids today they’re so desensitized by movies and violence on TV so okay good all right good so yeah Tommy way to put your money where your mouth was you can you can pick out a quote I’m gonna even give you one more because it’s maybe the funniest joke or setup it’s the he’s echoing he’s like hello hello echo echo and he keeps doing he’s like I’m an idiot you’re an idiot is the best set up
4:04 you’re an idiot is the best set up that’s true that’s a good one Frosty the Snowman is the the cartoon the old one like come around children and maybe it’s only because I think Frosty in that version has like a Brooklyn accent oh I’m all washed up thing oh see I knew it that’s that’s what it is but th those are the two for me okay any any Christmas tradition movie set that you go through on your family for your family I I do I do enjoy the Grinch like one that we will
4:34 enjoy the Grinch like one that we will probably always watch is a Christmas story story that one plays at least once we’ve we’ve actually this year I don’t think I’ve seen him in the past the Christmas Christmas Chronicles those are good never heard of it Christmas Chronicles yeah it’s with is it Googling horrible with movies and while you’re Googling that one I’ll throw it down what have you guys seen white Christmas you mean the the
5:06 seen white Christmas you mean the the old timey one old timey one yeah I have and and I enjoy it Kurt Russell by the way is the Kurt Russell okay yeah there’s like several in the series now I think wow my my wife insists on Watching White Christmas every year and I like we go along with it now I don’t actually watch it with her anymore I just like pop in for a bit like okay hey the movie’s on all right let’s go find I got to go clean bathrooms or something or we
5:37 something or we so and the kids are now to the point where they’re like this was a great movie the first three times we watched it we’re getting tired of it every year now we have to figure out some new new content there as well it’s hard to hard to get the kids to watch the the older movies mine are still in the age where like like it starts off like God this is like a 80s movie or 60s 7s and I’m like just give it give it a chance give it a try just hang in there more more often than not they like
6:08 more more often than not they like it a good story is always a good story I’m surprised no one came up with the Home Alone movies oh that one that’s a staple or you moved on from that one we never got into it like the I think the kids have watched it a couple times but yeah it’s never become a staple I I I hope we can continue doing the podcast about what I’m about to say but I just saw it two weeks ago For the First Time Home Alone Home Alone yeah the first one yeah with with the this one thing right yeah so my wife was like should we watch it with the
6:38 was like should we watch it with the kids I’m like I don’t know she said why I’m like I I have never seen it so that is astounding to me Tommy that is it’s were you not allowed to watch it growing up is this like a thing you weren’t allowed to just never came up I think we would have been mean I think we would have been encouraged if my parents to Joel pesy was in it like but there was like the little talk boy thing in there like maybe that was home alone too or something like that there like and there’s there’s not like it just it was one that never came up huh interesting now there’s like hom alone nine there’s like there’s like a million of them now I don’t know how many there are but it’s
7:08 I don’t know how many there are but it’s a solid a solid movie it’s a Sol the first one was good is that is that one of yours Mike we haven’t watched it every year but that’s been we’ve gone through a series I think last year I think we watched through like one two and three home alone okay those are the movies there I would also agree with you Tommy one of the my favorite ones now is elf elf is a really good I think I was going to say that one yeah it’s entertaining I like it it’s a good he’s will frell is good I thought he did a good job and I just think it’s absolutely funny that they
7:38 think it’s absolutely funny that they put like the the food of elves are sugar and Candy everywhere and he keeps putting M& M’s in his pasta I think it’s just hilarious and putting syrup all over it more sugar on everything which I think is really funny to me anyways do is do you have one because those are a lot of these are newer movies is there any movie if you watch it today that even if it’s not great if you maybe just hear a song from it or a scene that makes you not maybe tear up a little just think of being a child again do you have one of
8:09 being a child again do you have one of those like a Sentimental movie not necessarily a great movie gota be totally honest with you I try and steer clear from crying in front of movies so when there’s movies that make me want to cry you’re like nah not really I don’t really want to watch that no thanks but you got one it sounds like you got one though there I don’t know if i’ have to I’d have to really think about that one I’m not sure if I actually have movie that would make me cry translated if I do I’m not saying I did yeah Transformers won that was the one made me cry me cry yeah no I don’t I have some that are
8:41 yeah no I don’t I have some that are probably there one just came out it just came out in the movie theaters I think we went to go watch it in the theaters and it did make me cry but I can’t remember the name of it at the top of my head at the I’m I’m very bad with movies these days but yeah it happens been like Sonic 3 right Guardians of the something I don’t remember yeah Guardians of the Galaxy yeah yeah Transformers that’s great Transformers that was a good one
9:12 Transformers that was a good one Transformers that’s that’s always a teary one hit me hit me in the heart right right there anyways so any other Christmas traditions Tommy you had another topic you wanted to touch on here first before you get into presence I guess I’m just I’m just really happy to be with you guys today and I’ve shared this every Christmas we’ve done the podcast but as of right now with an eight-year-old upstairs as we’re doing this podcast my daughter is taking raw shrimp and we don’t get we’re not getting any deshelled she’s deshelling
9:42 getting any deshelled she’s deshelling it herself this giant box and she’s doing that right now so we do the Feast of The Seven Fishes a major Italian holiday and it’s the best time kind holiday and it’s the best time thing we have octopus and we’re GNA of thing we have octopus and we’re GNA I’m going to have to tell my kids yeah we’re going to boil it and then Shred the skin off and that’s what you do with octopus we have that we’re not doing the bakala which is very similar to what Seth’s wife’s family does which is hey let’s take a fish and put in a bathtub for for two weeks in salt we have that we have Fri calamari we have the
10:15 that we have Fri calamari we have the shrim scampy and scallops always seven fishes and it’s it’s like the Pinnacle thing and it just it warms my heart so you’re going to be in the kitchen all day all day all day all day yeah so yeah we do we we don’t we don’t do a heavy like sit down meal kind don’t do a heavy like sit down meal thing we do just ores so fingers we of thing we do just ores so fingers we spend yeah spend a fair amount of time in the kitchen today but it’s nice with Christmas music and just cutting up all the fruits and veggies yeah it’s get get kitchen the the holiday
10:46 kitchen the the holiday mood well it’s been nice for us here and I don’t know Tomy if you guys snow down there but we’ve been feeling holidayish because we’ve had snow on the ground so yesterday the kids went outside and made snowmen cuz the weather got a little bit warmer and now we have snowman in the backyard and it feels like okay this is like this what is what Christmas should feel like right I I think well you look at all the movies there’s a snow coming down we went sledding yesterday which was fun that was like a good moment for us and now today we’re going to probably I think lay low take it easy run around
11:19 think lay low take it easy run around in pajamas most of the day maybe send some kids outside after they get too loud and have them go make a snowball fight or go build some forts or something in the snow but that’s that’s going to be our intro to Christmas gu for us I love it well I will be thinking about you guys today throughout the Crazy Fish day and but Merry Christmas guys happy holidays Merry Christmas I’m so excited for for gifts Tommy since you’re so excited for the gifts today so for people who haven’t been through our Christmas
11:50 haven’t been through our Christmas giving season in the past we try and think about from us to the others on the podcast we try to think of a topic or something something that one of the other people might enjoy as a Christmas present to someone else here and we gift that person that that item and it can be anything you can dream up so these are these are all fictitious gifts they’re not real gifts so but just fun content around things that we would like to see or things that are interesting to us around the
12:21 that are interesting to us around the powerbi ecosystem all right that being said since Tommy’s super excited to do the gifts I say I say we let Tommy kick it off first here and then we’ll all vote on the the vote gift idea after the fact here so yeah Tomy give give us a a kickoff here start us off with your presence and I love I love the round robin format that we have too but and one thing that I thought of I think it’s two gifts each we’re doing yes as I was thinking of gifts for both of you I wanted to take a lot of the themes that I feel you guys have voiced consistently especially over the past
12:52 consistently especially over the past year okay so I’m taking those and saying what would be useful but also what would you could not wait to get your hands on so ality and really enhancement and for Mike I want to start with the Banger and one of the big things that you’ve talked about I think we’re we’re voting on the sales pitch too that’s one of the biggest things that you we’ve constantly talked about is cost what usage in what areas there’s so many things to test out but I don’t want to just try something and all of a sudden realize that that’s 80% of my my usage in my capacity okay so we need
13:24 usage in my capacity okay so we need something to test out but I don’t want to have to create another tenant so what I’m holding in my hand right now looks like a raspberry pie it looks like it it really does looks like it it does and I’m holding that in my hand disregard the notes that are on it or the the Rasberry just regard that that’s that’s not true but what this actually is is called fabric pie oh interesting what this is is a complete local instance of the fabric tenants you lost and sorry go don’t worry I know and
13:55 and sorry go don’t worry I know and listen I wanted to make this one a little hard but I think I’m gonna you on this because the instance is always up to date with whatever the latest fabric features are it’s not it’s not on premise so it basically will connect to fabric with Microsoft servers whatever the preview features and features available in fabric you get you can copy or get a subset of your data onto the fabric Pi so anything you want to test with any capacity you want to test is available
14:25 capacity you want to test is available here now again it does run a little slower it is just a res fabric Pi here true but the thing is this data integration runs smoothly on here and anything you want to test but it gets a little better too because since it’s a actual computer that you hold you actual computer that you hold a processor that you hold yes know a processor that you hold yes here’s a custom dashboard available that integrates seamlessly any CPU you’re running on here to what the cost would actually be if you’re running this in an actual dollar am so you can actually see
14:56 actual dollar am so you can actually see well if the RAM on this is taking up a ton well that obviously would equate with X Y and Z the fabric cost so this measurement of processing that it can easily equate the cost so I can say hey I’m want to test out co-pilot on a data flows Gen 2 and I have this subset on this workspace we can run that we can see how much of a capacity that would take bam now I can actually equate that to a cost but what’s even better about this is you don’t want to just take this subset of data and now you have to recreate it you can have two
15:26 have to recreate it you can have two options you can either push to your ual tenant or even mirror with Fab how many gifts are in this one gift that’s just a fabric pie my fan part of this this is the fabric pie so there’s and there’s two HDMI things and two hdmis yes you can have two screens but so that that’s the fabric pile I like it it’s good thank you Tommy for the gift I appr I appreciate this gift what I’m hearing you gifting me
15:58 gift what I’m hearing you gifting me is is full Dev mode without the added cost of actually burdening that price to CH to try stuff out so I that that’s quite interesting I would that’s a very I just watched Nvidia come out with a 20 I see where your inspiration came from Nvidia does came out with a $250 like GPU Graphics processing board thing that is like super cheap and you can like take it home and work on it and like put it in devices and things and
16:29 like put it in devices and things and yeah this that’s a that’s an interesting gift I like it thank you very much I give that one a thumbs up from my standpoint I would definitely thumbs up questions about the ability of it anything you want to ask about well you said it does everything fabric does so I’m I’m good okay all right cool I I think Seth what would you say I have two thumbs you get one you mean I have two thumbs you get one you get one thumb get one of two thumbs because it stretched a little it it stretched a little bit into like many many different facets so I could that could be a two thummer but
17:00 could be a two thummer but give you one I’ll take one for I’ll long the intro any episode if I get I’ll take it Mike are you a two or a one thumbs I’ll give it I’ll give it two thumbs up that’s that’s a two thumbs up that’s solid that’s solid this Eber agrees e agree do you remember those cisc and Eber reviews on movies that was like a long time they don’t do that anymore do they no that’s like no don’t know they’re best case scenario they’re retired so hopefully they’re retire retire do we want me to go to Seth or do we
17:31 do we want me to go to Seth or do we want to keep rotating from here let’s let’s keep rotating around so Seth you want to go next and since Tommy gave out his gift maybe you want to go to start with Tommy’s gift I will I I will start with Tommy’s gift there’s there’s a theme that carries over between the two of you for one of the gifts and and hopefully you’ll get it Tommy my first gift to you is mumblebee it’s an AI that Auto documents a bi process model and Report
18:02 documents a bi process model and Report generates a chat vot for end users and embeds it as a report page and creates an automatic task flow in the workspace where you can have multiple task flows right mum mumblebee mumblebee so so walk walk me through this from storyboard this out for me storyboard it out for me oh my God so much not let’s not let’s not push this Tommy but okay go ahead go ahead yeah because we spent a lot of time on all these all these gifts I’m I’m I’m
18:34 all these all these gifts I’m I’m I’m going into a workspace I’m saying what I this this chat Bots available on the bottom right hand side or am I creating the process first no this is part of your part of your report creation process part of my report creation process I’ve done the process I’ve tinkered around I like what I have okay mumblebee here’s what I’ve worked on let’s let’s put together documentation and the flow of the data which I really like and it just Auto does it yeah it’s part of part of your your report build process so you like
19:05 your report build process so you like these are these are the artifacts that come out of you generating that report right so if somebody wants to navigate to your workspace and see what’s going on when you share it like all this is already there for you dude I I love that part the task flow thing is also interesting too because given a little little love as well see let me think of anything else no I I love the idea of that because I that’s going to be the hardest thing too with all the artifacts and everything that we already have in fabric is okay then trying to make sense of it right and I think
19:36 make sense of it right and I think that’s the thing I I I I think we all struggle with is we’re going to create something but we don’t do documentation first or the process first is let’s create something and then we have to go back now obviously this could do anything because it’s the thoughts here but hopefully I’m thinking organization of the content but just the documentation alone this for consumers or is is that documentation for another developer coming in then or is that documentation that’s so many questions Tommy you got
20:06 that’s so many questions Tommy you got to open the gift and spend some time I I’ll spend some time playing around okay I’m gonna I’m gonna give that a solid one thing I really really enjoy that I think the need for that I I feel like you that’s even possible to build maybe that’s a workload I don’t know but that’s that’s actually pretty cool my mind’s spinning so well I’ll give I’ll also give it a thumbs up as well one
20:29 also give it a thumbs up as well one thumbs up I don’t really love the name mumblebee I get it mumblebee yeah like bumblebee but mumblebee I’m it’s interesting it’s interesting my first thought it translates Tommy’s words into legible sounding that would be that would be that would be Christmas miracle right right [Laughter] there love it thank you Seth I guess it’s my turn to go so I’m gonna I’m this is going to maybe be a little bit different of a gift this year I’m going to give my gift to Tommy this is Tommy gift I’m going to
21:00 Tommy this is Tommy gift I’m going to produce we had a conversation prior in one of our podcasts where Tommy got extremely distraught around a sports team who did not do so well during their season this year and it it ruined pretty much it pretty much ruined his week for a little period of time here those of you are listening to the podcast I believe this is the New York Jets or Yankees who is it ‘s one the New York Yankees Tommy slippers the one all the memorability around his his room there in his his
21:31 around his his room there in his his video it was the New York Yankees and Tommy was ruined for a week of just not being able to enjoy his family and his life and things as the team did not do very well in their their series to go to the playoffs I believe is what it was so what the World Series that’s sure those things yeah I follow Sports yeah okay sports game so so with this I’m going to give Tommy the official power Mery MLB connector oh nice so what this
22:02 Mery MLB connector oh nice so what this is going to do is surprise gift it’s not really it’s a this might be a stocking suffer gift right but the idea here is all the data realtime analytics would come directly from the MLB Tommy can connect to it he’s already got a paid subscription for a year so don’t worry you don’t have to pay for it it’s already paid for a year but all the data will funnel directly into your power query connector and you’ll be able to have real-time dashboards you would be able to see game statistics from all the game games all the stats that you would normally look at would be present in a
22:33 normally look at would be present in a connector that you could bring into your powerbi reports so Tommy could not only watch the game but he can also do his second favorite thing in the world which is play with powerbi on top of MLB data and run all his statistics and then continue to yell to TV loudly as the team continues to not do well based on their statistics as I’m watching the line drop I can yell kind watching the line drop I can yell as the line is dropping you can then of as the line is dropping you can then yell at it so this and it’s know it’s maybe even Beyond just a power cery adapter or connector it’s it’s also a
23:04 adapter or connector it’s it’s also a it’s a real-time analytics thing right so as the data is happening throughout the game Tommy’s getting a real-time portion of that data sent directly to his powerbi tenant where he can then pay full price for All Fabric and and then utilize all the real-time analytics things that are there that he can enjoy so there you go I I really enjoy the real time the I I I don’t want to say that I have bad news but all this he already built it I already have this this this answer
23:35 it I already have this this this answer has a real strong on on whether or not my thumb already has this gift he doesn’t want it he’s like you can return the gift you go to a website called stat cast. com first your mind will get blown because you not only have that there go but we actually have spin revolutions on every pitch how many times the ball rotates in the air now the thing is what I don’t have because I already I I build this every year year with the data that comes in because all apis and baseball’s like we’re gonna data is the big thing in baseball Moneyball right
24:06 in baseball Moneyball right there’s about it right so the data is readily available but I don’t have it real time and that way I can I can yell at Aaron Boon the manager in real time is what I I would love to do with with more reasoning thing like you should have brought in Nester Cortez even though he just got traded but you should have brought in Garen Cole he should he’s actually 50% more likely to get the next guy out 50 50. 1% you can get Precision on them and yeah really have the the numbers behind the argument having standard tables would be the nicest part because I do have to
24:37 the nicest part because I do have to transport so I I will because it’s Christmas I will give it a thumbs up because because there’s a lot of things there that would save save some time there you go so there’s definitely some solid ones there so thank you thank you Mike I appreciate it so that probably doesn’t care about this spting ball connector thing it’s a very practical gift as you were as you were describing it in my head I was just like Tommy’s already built this he’s got to buil this like he’s already got a data set that’s like plugged into this so there like there you get a neutral
25:08 so there like there you get a neutral from me I think because there some there are some he’s already he’s already you are some he’s already he’s already figured out and done but there are know figured out and done but there are some enhancements to it that’s nice it’s like having a newer version of still having on feet oh let me take these off and put on the new ones thank you so much exactly myal little comfier these are these are your smart wol socks I just gave you for Christmas cuz you can throw away your old pair and get your new pair a little bit softer now yeah I’ll quit I I can make espresso
25:38 now yeah I’ll quit I I can make espresso with espresso beans in a pot on the stove or I buy an espresso yeah and that’s basically what you’ve done for me there I appreciate that all right I’m GNA I’m gonna jump to Seth okay Seth you got a big team and there’s a lot of collaboration that has to be done I know a lot of time we’re working from home and I think the hardest thing with fabric right now is the collaboration side of things what are you working on can I see what you’re doing at this time if we’re all trying to work in the same task flow we’re all trying to work on the same project and how do you actually
26:09 the same project and how do you actually see in a sense everyone’s screens but more importantly how do we know that we’re all working on the same thing at the same time so you’re actually going to get something in the mail and what it’s actually going to be is a VR headset and you have now have a year subscription to What’s called the two names pending mine Fabric or fabriccraft this is a Minecraft like World in a room that actually has in a VR headset the screens up what each team is working on they’re there in the room too there’s a
26:39 they’re there in the room too there’s a a there’s a data flow room there’s a notebook room and there’s a main Central Hub of the lake house that everyone’s working on so you can actually walk up to a team member and say hey let’s go through what your notebook’s doing thing and it’s yeah you screen share but you’re in the same room and everyone in that room can even either come to that come to that station and either start typing and helping to work on it so it’s more than just screen sharing or they can walk somewhere else and start working on another part of this so what
27:10 working on another part of this so what people are working on is available on these screens that are all VR while in real time the data is flowing into the Lakehouse that everyone can see on the main main dashboard this is and again this is all real time testing there Central dashboard and everyone else has those VR headsets it’s like hey we’re going to all work together for the next two hours put in your VR let’s start working let’s go to that different station and we can pull it up so allows a lot more collaboration in a very different way with with fabric normally Tommy I I think I’d
27:42 fabric normally Tommy I I think I’d really enjoy this gift normally yeah but I already have it as built it as of as of the recent update Minecraft has become much more difficult and I had some time yesterday to play in Minecraft and we reset a world okay I’m on the search for nether Ward and that that takes a while CU you got to find a fortress and another so I’m I’m a little jaded Tommy because I’ve I’ve
28:13 jaded Tommy because I’ve I’ve lost four sets of diamond Enchanted armor This is Gonna Hurt Me 64 diamonds and like I like I didn’t know I could be so upset at Minecraft but I I turned it off yesterday in a state of disbelief all all the piglins stolen my stuff or the lava so that’s where my mind is at okay just just fair warning Call of
28:47 Duty I I like the theme I I like the theme but at the same time it like it almost makes me think my people would hate working for me because I’d be like over their shoulder all the time like hey when you log into the VR headset there’s Seth over your shoulder what you’re doing like I I don’t know if that that’s like the cross collaboration I would want to see I I I get it in theory does VR Seth have the same resting face that you do in real life this not even a virtual it’s literally this just
29:17 even a virtual it’s literally this just is every here it’s just everywhere I imagine that would be tough to work let me move my mic to the side so you get the full the full fact y that would be hard to work on so you would still look angry in the in Minecraft even though you’re not you’re very pleased with the work I would I would and yeah thanks Tommy I okay this is one of those I take and I say thanks so much and I I don’t know if I’d ever use it just because I’m an autous I’m an autonomous guy I I I trust folks they do great work if if that is you
29:49 they do great work if if that is you they do great work if if that is work in their own time sometime know work in their own time sometime that that’s fine by me we’re we’re here to get an objective done but in collaborative spaces like dude yeah I I could see using it sometimes I like it it’s good so how many thumbs do we have like all said I thought I was proud as the villagers would say I I will I we our family is a big fan of Minecraft so I would
30:19 is a big fan of Minecraft so I would give it two thumbs up I think it’d be super fun I’ll give you I’ll give you one thumb up I’ll give you two give a quick one a quick one you can’t vote for your own you can’t vote for your own gift no that’s what he’s saying I’ll give give Qui Sizzle of me burning in lava is yes this is the sound of 64 diamonds getting getting demolished as soon as you started saying that you had a problem with Minecraft like it’s gonna cost me it’s gonna cost you you just lost some thumbs on that
30:44 you you just lost some thumbs on that one at least Tommy meanwhile Tommy’s thinking I know I’ve got Mike I know I’ve got Mike in the bag on this one cuz he’s gonna love Minecraft oh goodness all right Seth over to over to you who am I giving to you mik I think think to me this one is I I have one really good gift and one that is just a gift it’s first which would you like first Mike let’s just let’s start off with the low expectations first just just just the gift and then you I call this yeah this this is one of
31:16 you I call this yeah this this is one of those where I’m running to Target five minutes before I’m supposed to meet you I’m just grabbing I’m grabbing things as I go yeah this one I call peace of mind it’s it’s it’s data flows Gen 2 upgrade it just works little incremental refresh get integration all the irritations that you’ve had over the last six months to a year that you keep bringing up time and time again in the pocket they’re all fixed they’re all it it just it works as you would expect it to Mike I’m I’m touched by this one
31:46 to Mike I’m I’m touched by this one actually because this is this is one is near and near and dear nailed nailed it nailed it this is the I’ve just been given the the Amazon gift card that of choice here so I can go buy anything I want now with this gift yeah I would agree there’s been a lot of challenge I feel like with looking at data flows Gen 2 and coming back into it and be like ah it just it costs too many cus it doesn’t do cicd yet it’s not bolted into the normal process there’s so many like I love the
32:17 process there’s so many like I love the tool that’s what brought literally the data flows the power query experience was what brought me to the the the powerbi ecosystem and I’m I’m lavishing and I don’t know if lavishing is even the right word but I’m I’m languishing maybe languishing in the fact that it’s not quite what it was before it’s lost its luster a bit but I do have a new friend and it’s called python so python is now my friend and the notebooks are now my new friends so we have maybe moved on from power bit until we we’ve I love notebooks the
32:47 until we we’ve I love notebooks the things you can do in notebooks is incredible so I hope that we get to a place where data flows genu starts really catching up and keeping Pace with the rest of the program so thank you for that gift Seth I do like that one actually I will definitely give that one 100% two thumbs up for me that is even though you ran through the exit aisle and pulled all the bubble gum off the shelves and threw it into the bag and gave it to me right and and and the best part the best part about this gift is sometimes it’s the guys who just
33:17 gift is sometimes it’s the guys who just like rip through right and it’s like hey I I’ve got this thought whatever it’s the gift card and it checks all the boxes and then you got then you got guys right next door right like the gift right before like Tommy that spent weeks ring putting together something and then he’s like how did he how did you just give him two thumbs and not me yeah two thumbs no no honestly this is no I saw it Tommy I saw the the utter
33:47 it Tommy I saw the the utter disappointment absolutely absolutely if not I this is not a jaded one thumbs up oh at all but because for me to your point from a gift point of view the rushing through here is the what’s costing you thing run so like I love it the but the execution of It kind love it the but the execution of It thing is where I have to just do the of thing is where I have to just do the one thumbs up I need this myself I but yeah but still great gift cool all right
34:17 yeah but still great gift cool all right I guess it’s my turn then I’ll go another one so I think my next gift should be going to Seth this is the next one I need to give Seth okay so Seth I have two gifts on my list here I I’m hoping you enjoy this one but we’ll see what we’ll see where we land with this one we have t discussed on the podcast a number times around there are a number of really good visuals but we been slow to push them out a little bit they haven’t been quite to the par of what we need when our customers expect us to produce greatl looking reports but we’re trying
34:48 greatl looking reports but we’re trying to really polish certain things so I’ve decided this year’s gift to Seth is we’re going to double no we’re going to Triple the team for Miguel Myers and all of his AI is visual building experiences everything he’s been pushing out Miguel has been doing an incredible job of really good visuals incredible design giving us the features that we want yes that’s what I’m talking about so I didn’t know how this was going to land but I’m gonna say let’s triple his team
35:18 but I’m gonna say let’s triple his team he gets triple amount of developers to build out all of the the new improvements to visuals and he’s able to execute fully on his VIs of all the new features all the additional options and and it becomes the vision that he wants it to be in much shorter period of time so that’s that’s my gift to you is we’re going to really rapidly increase the the size and scale of Miguel’s team and the visuals team to build out these visuals as intended yeah for for our podcast listeners my two thumbs were going up
35:50 listeners my two thumbs were going up Midstream as as Mike was describing that I’m I’m All About that gift that’s a good one Mike okay I didn’t know how land land I there a couple couple comments there oh back to Tommy’s gift or I say the sales pitch there that’s it was already a two thumbs up but the we’re g to double no triple what a nice a nice touch yeah it’s like I run a business I know how to sell things or something like that right no trip no triple we’re
36:21 like that right no trip no triple we’re g to Triple the the amount of your developers anyways that was my gift to Seft enjoy it thanks Mike you’re welcome all right I think we’ve run around Tommy back over to you yeah and Mike this is this the equivalent of what just happened when we were talking about the power query is equivalent of like you and I at the mall going oh I wish I had that doesn’t that look so cool I’m like I already got it for you so like just like where you’re like I
36:51 so like just like where you’re like I got it so Mike yours is no PS V2 and oh boy I’m already yep two thumbs up obviously the ideas here but just I want you to wait before the thumbs up because how high they can go let me let me let me see how many thumbs I can add I’m going to borrow some thumbs from the family members in my family featur all right let’s let’s hear the features first we have Snippets right now but you have the ability to write away to save your own Snippets and they work exactly like vs code Snippets where they have the parameters you can basically choose like hey enter here once I
37:21 like hey enter here once I click tab Lakehouse name once I click here column name I can customize my notebook co-pilot so I can actually feed it custom instructions either globally or for that particular notebook the vs code integration is seamless so not only can I use that vs code extension but I can also choose my environment in that workspace because I might have multiple environments in there yep yep I like that one here where it gets incredibly cool and these are really the two really distinguishing features we
37:53 two really distinguishing features we have templates we have available on templ templ powerb tips. com and oh yep I’m sure that’s right yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so yeah but we also you can create your own template and this integration with the new new co-pilot is incredible I’m going to read for you some of the prompts that work perfectly with V with the co-pilot in fabric not vs code in fabric that you can ask it okay hey co-pilot I’m trying
38:24 can ask it okay hey co-pilot I’m trying to take this API and do the following here’s the documentation of the API co-pilot will then take look through that documentation and say based on what you need to do and the API here are three different approaches which one would you like to try first you say let’s try the first one it starts creating the documentation in the notebook all the different code blocks of pushing that to your lake house you can say what are the pros and cons of those approaches of if you were going to
38:54 those approaches of if you were going to push to a lake house first or push to a database first give you those approaches and why you should do it based on that API and based on the Lakehouse well I really like this co-pilot let’s create a template off of this notebook and let’s just take the first part of the integration now if we’re going to create a new notebook we can say do we have any templates that can tackle this task or this data well it sounds good well and then finally on a big project the probably the biggest one is co-pilot take a look at my task flow any
39:26 take a look at my task flow any recommendations on how to prove it and any recommendations for this notebook so the seamlessness with my already workspace and my data but also be able to customize my notebook with Snippets and templates sets notebooks apart I like it how much of that like little little like hey I want to see this BL was AI generated oh no this is all me this is all all me I thought we branched into I am
39:58 me I thought we branched into I am creating this new thing and out all the gifts here 100% I did for my Christmas gifts I literally just said co-pilot what would be the Seth here’s here’s all the transcripts in the podcast please give me Seth B yeah give me a give me two gifts that I need to give to Seth Bower off of the explicit measures podcast and it gave me a great prompt none of these were AI generated none of the line bullets none of the ideas ideas so cool I I like I’m going to give that
40:28 so cool I I like I’m going to give that one I’m going to give that one I think I’m going to give that a solid thumbs up on this one I like it I like notebooks is something I use every day we do a ton of data engineering on top of notebooks yeah so that’s giving us a thumbs up as well beautiful I think this is a good I think this is a good tool I like the idea of keeping my Snippets around that’s one of the things I can’t quite figure out we do all these fancy things with prompting but where do you keep all the prompts like I feel like I have to continually type prompts in all the time and adjust them like I feel like that should be a thing that’s across any tool that’s I don’t know why this doesn’t exist maybe this is a product that I just need to go make it some point and
40:58 just need to go make it some point and make it make it exist but I feel like
41:00 make it make it exist but I feel like the prompting pieces should be much easier to dive through but yeah I like it it’s a good it’s a good solid feature and I like the ability to be able to have templates I think templating things is the way the future there’s in anything you build whether it’s notebooks visuals reports I think there’s always experts out there are going to spend more time at it than you will frankly and I I feel sorely behind against a lot of other people who are building really great things all the time and I actually I’m jealous I just like I’d like to have just the output of what they have and start from
41:31 output of what they have and start from their output and build what I want from there I I feel like the the community is incredibly strong in our space I’d like to leverage that more in other parts and I don’t to your point Tommy I don’t see anything around the community in notebooks at this point so that’s a that’s a really that alone I think would just be a great present by itself beautiful awesome all right Seth over to you to you to Tommy okay this is Tommy’s second gift are you ready Tommy I am ready this is called o
42:04 ready this is called o solomo a local only AI that only works on the powerbi desktop and not in the cloud automates all the powerbi things with Tommy inspired prompts will never work in the browser special features include work in the browser special features include forget about it which cleans up the model of unused columns and unnecessary things to make it as performant as possible that’s amazing
42:34 performant as possible that’s amazing great the mamamia feature model validation and auto testing in deployment and the yank me to my knees autogenerated reports which is always a [Laughter] disappointment that’s hilarious oh oh my I’m creating this I’m gonna find a way this is first off first off the marketing
43:06 is first off first off the marketing here by itself dude solid thumbs up it’s two solid thumbs up it means my only and then Mama forget about it just just W thing I don’t think I could be happier right now because as you’re talking about this my mom’s texting me shrimp recipes so like it could life could not get better right now but no Seth holy crap why can’t I use powerbi desktop which is free and
43:37 use powerbi desktop which is free and use the local models that I already have on my computer and easily integrate this the ability to do the custom prompts forget about it by itself there’s a ton of other things we can do here like what’s a matter for you what are my Dax measures doing like this is beautiful beautiful Seth I would literally start playing with it right now if I had it thing and just like that would be the next four hours of my life so total two thumbs up
44:07 of my life so total two thumbs up sweet I like that one that’s good I I’ll give this one that one that one’s definitely a two thumbs up from my standpoint I think forget about it forget about it come ons go away I think I think we should that should be a tool Tommy you need to fix this I may actually start working on that after Christmas break take someone else’s tool and at least Rebrand it at least at a minimum minimum just has to be going anybody anybody out there willing to Rebrand one of their har optimization tools and and call it forget about it Michael kovalski calling Michael kovalski can we get a
44:37 calling Michael kovalski can we get a forget about it in semantic link Labs like a forget about it feature like you like a forget about it feature like model. forget about it know model. forget about it and then just enter your model name it would get three thumbs up if every time I open it you just hear [Music] [Music] oh perfect perfect I love it all right all right I guess it’s my turn now I I shall I shall go give Seth his second gift Seth I’m going to give you another gift here and we’ll see how this
45:08 another gift here and we’ll see how this one lands I think we’re going to go after a fabric per user subscription we’re going to add a new subscription to the pattern here so you had to buy fabric as a azure-based subscription but a fabric per user we were on the podcast a while ago and Alex Powers had mentioned hey if you were able to get a fabric per user and what would it cost you what would that what would that price be if you were going to buy it so we’re going to make it reasonable it’ll be $30 per fabric per User it’s a little bit more per users but you get all the fabric things
45:40 users but you get all the fabric things inside fabric you get all the lak houses you get all the things that you would normally have but you still have to pay for storage separately of course because we don’t want to abuse the system that’s so expensive because that’s incredibly expensive and what the things you could do there would be so we already know the price hike that’s happening yeah sorry storage not included but you you get to have everything else the the all the other fabric richness that you get and with this fabric per user you you get to use co-pilot so if you’d like to try that out is if you want but I also was
46:10 that out is if you want but I also was thinking it would be nice if I could bring any co-pilot I would want any open AI or I don’t know what is it 03 there’s CLA there’s anthropic let’s add cursor in there as well like all the things that are you well like all the things that are things that you may want and and know things that you may want and and with this you you by default get installed you get all the things that come with the richness that is spark so you get yeah you get vecks and you get gluten that won’t kill you so that that’s the other engine that comes
46:40 that that’s the other engine that comes with this by default so for those of you who don’t know Seth can’t handle gluten that’s that’s that’s not a thing for him but this is a this is gluten that you would like to consume because it will keep your consumption down but it’s already included in the fabric per user pricing for you so you don’t have to worry about it so all your team members could use use fabric per user and you don’t have to go buy u a skew and it will just work but that’s that’s my gift to you is some more fabric for your team yeah I have I have to get behind it so you get one thumb right I’m I’m a guy
47:12 so you get one thumb right I’m I’m a guy that yes I purse strings are important where where we spend our monies typically not fighting the battle of the per per user fabric subscription but it it is such a a good idea across the board that that the more people they use fabric the better off we are I I think it’s also the idea here is like you’re your your company you have a limited number of people in your experience so for that team who’s doing the development of things you need to make lake houses you need to make data
47:42 lake houses you need to make data engineering things happen like I feel like that team would be very beneficial to have a fabric per user and other Pro licenses could consume the output of that with semantic models that you put put other places so that seems like a reasonable a reasonable feature there two thumbs up on that I thought Tom yeah I was debating who to give this one to I thought maybe Seth maybe Tommy would like this one more but I probably have another lousy gift that I’m going to give to Tommy later on so we’ll try we’ll we’ll stick with the original plan and we’ll we’ll just Wing
48:13 original plan and we’ll we’ll just Wing we’ll wing it all right all right so I think I’m on my last one how many guys do you guys left we’re all on one more one one each all right so Seth this is something that’s come up because there’s been a constant drum beat with you on things that we talk about on this podcast and one we just that we continue to talk about and is the preview features and it’s the considerations and the things that are not quite up to par yet and Seth you were always great at obviously going to
48:43 were always great at obviously going to the documentation but is everyone in your organization so I present to you what’s called limit me with an exclamation mark and what this actually has is anytime anyone in your organization yourself or your team member goes and wants to create a new artifact if there are any limitations on that at that time a popup will come up letting that hey indeed that these are the things that are going to happen these are the things that consider are you cool with that
49:14 that consider are you cool with that it’s just a quick popup you say okay because that is a preview feature any creation of a new artifact once I’m in that product if I try to do something like a new action maybe a pipeline that’s in preview or an action out of pipeline there’s a side panel that says oh this preview if you were to do this here are the basically the consequences of doing so at this time I think org app has a few things where you would have to really keep that in mind and it will let by the way if you share this or if you create that event this is the things that You’ have
49:44 event this is the things that You’ have to consider it’s not a big popup at least when you’re in the product but it’s something that lets the user know if I’m going to create a gen two with a GitHub it’s in preview just so by the way it can go away what’s great is you also have because we have to always have an Administration gift there’s an admin panel where I can customize this maybe I want to turn some of those alerts or notifications off maybe I actually want to include or highlight more something on the Lakehouse so I don’t want that to be a side panel I want that to be a popup
50:15 side panel I want that to be a popup they I have to click okay on this is always up to date with whatever the preview and limitations and considerations are by Microsoft so there’s no worry about updating this or being out of think with what Microsoft’s doing and if someone clicks okay it takes it takes like $10 off of their their monthly bill like it’s it takes out every for every okay you click it takes off money out of your salary for the month your bonus has been reduced by 10%
50:45 month your bonus has been reduced by 10% byli this button do it do I have features to actually turn it off not allow them to do it oh of course it’s called limit me so yeah yeah I like this and and one of the base level configurations I would imagine limit me has is hey if the actual preview feature says don’t use in production don’t put it in your production systems yeah I would certifi
51:13 production systems yeah I would certifi course right away just certifi you have these workspaces to choose from you can’t do it in the current workspace your yeah maybe maybe limit me will also tell you this preview feature has been in preview for two and a half years we probably don’t want you to use he ain’t spending any more time on itut Best Choice you’re still limited for five years later Auto deprecate everything that’s older than six months in previous yeah a single paint of glass that shows you all the things that have been touching sandbox
51:43 things that have been touching sandbox environment works it has a shelf life I like this Tommy two thumbs up wonderful thank you for limit meti I’ll give it I’ll give it a thumbs up that’s a good solid thumbs up that’s just that’s just yeah that’s good practice in a businessman I would agree like it Beth over to you this is my last huh MH this this is a similar gift Mike but oh completely different okay so while Tommy
52:13 completely different okay so while Tommy got mumblebee you you Mike are getting Optimus Optimus spline spline spline notebooks yes this is single and multi notebook feature provides a dynamic right hand side guide that allows you to see and navigate where you are in the software development process each cell or workbook can be tagged and perform different aspects of the development process Dev test deploy Optimus line can
52:44 process Dev test deploy Optimus line can be mandatory for notebooks created via templates it also shows up as developers as they use it so as they’re navigating within the notebook they understand where that notebook lives within this ecosystem Optimus spline also reads and understands the development code and will autogenerate test cases for future deployment validation I like it I think this is this is one I’ve been harping on a lot is just I can get code into a deployment pipeline but there’s no Auto population
53:14 pipeline but there’s no Auto population we can move the artifacts we can move the definition or the notebooks but we can’t move the data and we can’t reest anything or we we can’t load the data there’s no retroactive actions that let me push things into these different pipelines yeah I think this is a good one I think Optimus spline is is solid I’ll get that one two thumbs up I think that’s a challenge right now that needs to get solved at some point and I do agree with that one the more you can do in notebooks right Mike the more you in notebooks right Mike the more I’m doing a solid thumbs up I love
53:45 know I’m doing a solid thumbs up I love the test case here H actually yeah I’m not so much on the software side of things or the software development but I see a lot of utility here especially like the template things is always a win anytime you can integrate a template so a solid thumbs up I like that one yeah that’s good I again I can’t I can’t argue enough like for here like there’s there’s not enough automation left inside the pipe the deployment pipeline pieces to give us really what we want with data Movement
54:15 really what we want with data Movement we do a really good job moving the lake houses between different environments but we can’t get the data through each one of them it’s got to be a better way to solve that problem cool I like it good one all right so I guess I’m down to the last one here you are so this this is interesting the the final option here Tommy for you is you is we know Tommy on the podcast and you you kind comment to this a lot but you have a a love for the old school
54:46 have a a love for the old school espresso machine like the one you put over the stove be the beti yeah beti yes so your so your it’s it sounds like that is something that you do a lot you do a lot of espresso building and or eating consuming whatever you want to do it so my gift to you is I’m going to give you a Microsoft enabled espresso machine as you’re working on your Microsoft fabric environment it will directly connect to your espresso machine and so as Tommy
55:19 your espresso machine and so as Tommy starts writing it’s you get a little sleepy it can watch your eyes a little bit and it knows when they’re a little bit like droopy you’re blinking a bit more it’s Watching You the computer Fabric’s watching you through your camera when you’re yawning a bit and it knows time for Tommy to get some more espresso so this is a a fabric branded espresso machine that automatically will make you espresso when you need it as you work those long days for training content for your customers and building out Rich MLB
55:50 customers and building out Rich MLB dashboards that you’re looking and yelling at the Yankees at so this is a an espresso machine that will give you that style of coffee that really rich style of espresso for you but it’ll make it as needed and it will watch your demeanor and know when it needs to make more espresso for you so I went on a a funny rant on this one but yeah more espresso for Tommy and it’s made just to your liking because fabric knows what you want if even if that sounds the most outlandish the craziest and scariest thing is out of all the
56:20 and scariest thing is out of all the gifts that’s the most possible because there’s a few AI projects out there where they actually check your eyes and they do it in cars don’t they now like cars like figure it out now when you’re driving they watch youing which is there’s applications for that there’s things that check literally what you’re doing on the screen and you put some measurements in there with something like a raspberry piie you can feed that to an espresso maker that’s actually something that could you could build in a day there you go you don’t worry you don’t need to build it I’ve already got it I know GNA give it to you there go
56:52 it I know GNA give it to you there go the it’s the idea here my friend dude like I said we’re doing a lot of fabric project or they’re just beginning to really ramp up like I’m getting the point now the amount of shrimp and data in my life like I can either offer services for your fish or for fabric and I think the fish would be more expensive at this point so the ability the ability to like just have that integrated and have like oh yeah I am misspelling or some of the things aren’t making s on my documentation it’ll know
57:22 making s on my documentation it’ll know it oh my gosh it knows it just knows that’s where I want yeah we can see you type it on SC it knows you’ve got a thousand windows open right it it sees you like all the you’re slowing down the clicks are slowing down in speed we know we know that you need some more espresso yeah exactly paragraph need it that’s that’s a Solitude thumbs up what you give me a food item it’s a it’s a good well and I also argue like there’s a lot of things happening in fabric these days we’ve gotten a lot of Rich features and releases it’s hard to keep up with everything so we’re going to need some more caffeine to
57:52 to need some more caffeine to continue to stay on top of all the new features we need to test out all the new things we need to adjust or or dial in yeah there’s too many things for one person to really be an expert at all of them at this point I think but we’ll need more time to really absorb and spend project time around that and this is going to give you that extra time it’s going to let you remove your sleep from your from your body we don’t need that anymore that’s just wasteful and instead you can then consume all your time building content around Fabric and and learning things about fabric the only yeah I love it the only thing I’m
58:22 only yeah I love it the only thing I’m concerned about is like the day after Christmas I may have that what if idea and start trying to build this I love what if it could do it could it yeah actually once I do that game over love it thank you two thumbs well for this one we we basically have come at time at we’re about done with the episode so thank you all for who have been hanging out and and sitting and talking about these fun features or things that we’re pushing and pulling around this is just
58:52 pushing and pulling around this is just fun random things that we’re just kind fun random things that we’re just picking out about fabric of picking out about fabric picking some fun things that we’ve been we’ve talked about or discussed throughout the year we really appreciate everyone listening to the podcast thank you for enjoying Christmas with us Merry Christmas to you and your family happy holidays to whatever you may be celebrating in your world and that’s it for our for our episode Tommy where else could you find the podcast if not under your Christmas tree under your Christmas tree is the first place you should look but you can find us an apple and Spotify or wherever you get your podcast make sure to
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